Bryan College and Classical Conversations formed a partnership to offer a dual enrollment program for Challenge III and IV students in 2011. We are excited to announce the 2013-14 year’s program lineup for Classical Conversations Plus.
Over the years, Classical Conversations has always emphasized that Challenges III and IV allow the mature student to expand beyond the coursework of the seminars, whether through work, service, or through other activities of resume building. One way to build an academic resume is the addition of college courses. Some students pursue this path through community colleges rather than private Christian colleges. Thankfully, Classical Conversations Plus combines the excellent resources and Socratic discussions of the Challenge III and IV programs plus the opportunity of coordinating college courses for an excellent dual enrollment program. This allows the student to earn credit through a private Christian college which will support rather than undermine the parents' desire to continue a classical, Christian worldview.
The partnership between Classical Conversations and Bryan College produces the following positive results:
1. It affirms the excellence of Classical Conversations Challenge programs.
2. It allows diligent students in Classical Conversations to earn college credit for the work they are already doing in Challenge (with additional assignments).
3. It allows families a reduced credit hour cost for credit hours earned prior to full-time college enrollment.
4. It offers additional Christian training to students made in God’s image.
Frequently Asked Questions
How will it work?
Parents will work directly with Bryan College. Classical Conversations directors introduce the Classical Conversation College Plus option with parents. Directors bear no additional responsibilities in administration and grading. In some classes, directors will be responsible for check sheets which verify that the student completed the work and participated in seminar discussions for Bryan College credit for in-seminar work (participation points).
Bryan College requires students to have previously completed at least two years in Classical Conversations and to be currently enrolled in at least four Challenge III or IV level courses. Bryan College also requires that a student be at least sixteen years of age or in the junior year of high school equivalent of the semester course of enrollment. This will ensure the maturity and experience needed for success.
What will it cost?
Bryan College will charge Classical Conversations students a discounted rate of $100 per credit hour, so most classes will cost $300 (see further detail about credit hours below). More information about the costs or general Bryan questions can be answered by Charlene Fonseca.
The 2013-14 Class offerings:
HIS 221 U.S. History I, fall semester, 3 credits
HIS 222 U.S. History II, spring semester, 3 credits
MAT 114 Geometry and Algebra, entire year, 3 credits. Currently enrolled students need to re-enroll for the spring semester.
BIB 222 Old Testament Literature and Interpretation, fall semester, 3 credits
MAT 117 Precalculus, entire year, including lab, 4 credits. Currently enrolled students need to re-enroll for the spring semester.
Classical Conversations Plus will be an additional cost to parents over two years if they choose to enroll in this optional program. However, families could potentially save nearly an entire year of college tuition fees ($12-$25,000).
* Math classes will require an additional resource: Scientific Notebook 5.5.
Will classes transfer?
Bryan College is a regionally accredited college, which is the highest accreditation colleges can attain. This is the same accreditation of virtually every major state school and many accredited private schools. Classes are never guaranteed to transfer from one institution to another. Parents must use discernment and contact the college admissions department of the colleges they are considering for their students. Classes that do not transfer are typically classes that are not offered at other institutions. In addition, some colleges will only accept a certain number of transfer credits.
College credit, even if it does not transfer, will enhance a student’s resume, and his or her chances of securing college admission and scholarships.
We want to be as open with you as possible about the credits. We could have offered any and all courses, but we decided on a limited few in order to offer a solid education to all students. We did not want to offer classes that were unlikely to be beneficial to a student’s college transcript. Bible 222 may transfer as a philosophy course or as an elective if you go the public school route, or it may not transfer; the book, materials, and discussion, however, will be more beneficial to your student than knocking out a credit for credit’s sake. Math 114 and 117 are a great way for your student to be prepared for the collegiate level of math. Depending on a student’s major, these classes might make it possible for your student to be exempted from taking any additional math courses in college. On the other hand, if earning an engineering or science related degree, it might be possible that these math courses would not help the student graduate any earlier because such programs typically expect freshman to start in Calculus I if they plan on graduating on time. Whatever the credit designation result, we believe the value of taking college level courses that complement the classical seminars of Challenge III and IV a worthwhile endeavor for families pursuing a the college path.
A brief note from Leigh Bortins:
Greg Stockton, Robert Bortins, Linda Tomkinson, and I really loved the professors we met. We could have talked literature, math, and worldview all day together. Professor Sample, who will offer our students support via online and phone for American History, is just the kind of man I want my William to learn from. Dr. Lestman understood the principles supporting math concepts and the need to mold our children from problem chasers to math thinkers. Dr. Raymond Legg understands the importance of citation and author's intent, and he loves words. He was just delightful and talks classically naturally.
I know that Bryan College in Tennessee is far away from many of you. However, we'll look for opportunities to find great professors to introduce your children to throughout the region. My dream has been that students will go to college to hang out with colleagues--specific people who will disciple them and students who will challenge them as they grow in the knowledge of their Lord and Savior--rather than go to college to obtain an expensive diploma at a school with an institute attached to it.